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Post by ocelot on Jul 23, 2005 16:05:34 GMT -5
One thing I've always loved about Lara's music is how her music is arranged. Not is her voice amazing but she knows how to (or gets people who know how to)organize the music, background vocals and her vocals to get the maximum out of her songs. This is why I love Un Ave Maria so much, especially the ending.
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Post by shavonfan on Jul 23, 2005 17:20:30 GMT -5
I love the arrangement of this song, and I'm glad that Lara was able to have the freedom to make this album according to her vision of it for this very reason. I only wish I knew what the song was about. I only speak english!
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Post by ocelot on Jul 23, 2005 17:48:10 GMT -5
I know little french (I'm currently trying to learn French)so I did this translation via freetranslation.com hopefully this will help you understand the song. I'm thinking ave doesn't not equal has in this case cause that part doesn't quite seem right. There may be other parts that aren't right.
Before even that one be not life, one is taken In a flesh nest and of kindness An infinite embrace that secures us delivers Ourselves a wisdom All already is obtained But for that as early as this cry let us Betray us the love gesture that unites Separates and nourishes the regrets
A Has Maria of which the child would not be A statuette, a prayer without faith But a letter offered HAS those that do not write For that the words resound at last As a Has Maria
To you, to us, to those that Will Find a peace, an earth, a harmony An infinite reason, without reason to be, without being execrated And those that “poorly there thinks”, that they think about it soon, but in another life In this one that one gives oneself A luck of all to recommence
A Has Maria of which the child would not be A statuette, a prayer without faith But a letter offered HAS those that do not write For that the words resound at last As a Has Maria
A Has Maria For those that do not pray For that the music be again the voice OF A confession impudique for those that do not believe For all those that deserve at last A Has Maria
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Post by shavonfan on Jul 23, 2005 18:31:36 GMT -5
Thank you for the translation. I guess I'm still not understanding clearly what the message of the song is about. What is it, in your opinion, That Lara is trying to convey to her listeners here?
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Post by ocelot on Jul 23, 2005 20:17:29 GMT -5
A Better Translation:
A Hail Mary
Before even that one can be alive, one is caught In a nest of flesh and tenderness An infinite embrace that secures us Delivers us a wisdom All already is acquired But for whom from this cry Do we betray the gesture of love which unites Dividing and feeding the regrets
A Hail Mary whose child would not be A statuette, a prayer without faith But a letter oblation To those who don't write So that the words finally resonate Like a Hail Mary
To you, to us, to those who Will find a peace, a world, a harmony An infinite reason, without reason for being, without being held in contempt And those "poorly think it", that they think See you soon, but in another life In this that one gives oneself A chance of beginning all again
A Hail Mary Whose child would not be A statuette, a prayer without faith But a letter oblation To those who dont' write So that the words resonate finally Like a Hail Mary
A Hail Mary For those who don't pray So that the music be again the voice Of a shameless confession for those who don't believe For all those who finally deserve A Hail Mary
I think this song is about God and the world.
Verse 1:Through God there is an embrace that surrounds us giving us wisdom, but yet a humanity of mistakes that cause us to have regrets, which are united, divided, or feeds the pain of the regrets. The flesh I think refers to the fact that we are human and have human desires and thoughts. Tenderness I think refers to the emotion of humanity that means we care about the world.
Chorus: "Hail Mary" I think refers to Jesus mother or a comparison that we need someone to look up to, or a mother to look up to. The next line I think is about not having the children just follow the path because they are told to but to follow it because of the emotion in their hearts/faith in their hearts. A prayer without faith is something that's meaningless/useless, you might as well not do it. Again the next (oblation is an offering to God) is a letter to those who can't write so they finally realise the truth.
Verse 2: She is saying it's to those who believe and states what is different to those who believe and how in the Christian faith it is believed after you die (if you believe) you will be born again in infinite time, it's difficult to describe. And at the end she makes note the so people think we'll remember people we knew on earth in the next but she is saying we won't remember any of it.
Last Chorus: This is to the people who don't believe in God that the music is a voice of confession, so that they know of God and see him as they deserve. Her music is her way of testifying to her faith.
This is my intrepretation of the song I could be wrong. There are a lot of metaphors that seem to replicate the Christian faith especially the Catholic Church.
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Post by shavonfan on Jul 23, 2005 20:57:50 GMT -5
Well, I definately appreciate all the time that you put into explaining all of this to me. Thank you. How closely is all of this that you write about to your own heart, and set of beliefs?
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Post by ocelot on Jul 24, 2005 9:14:58 GMT -5
It's very close to my own heart and my set of beliefs. I firmly believe most of it, but I do not quite lift up Jesus's mother Mary up so high, since I am Protestant and Protestant tend not to put so much emphasis on things like that.
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Post by shavonfan on Jul 24, 2005 17:07:06 GMT -5
Well, I happen to be Catholic, yet do not lift Jesus' mother Mary up so high either. While I do not pray the Rosary, I definately understand where Lara is coming from in this song (thanks to your translation of it). Properly placed, I see nothing wrong with the "Hail Mary" prayer....she for us is the one who carried the Savior in her womb. We are called to carry Him in our lives. I'm not trying to get religious on everyone here, but Lara's message is a very good one in that our faith needs to be more than a ritual without meaning. What we truly believe in needs to resonate within us to where it is fully expressed in our words and actions. Amen to that!
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Post by ocelot on Jul 24, 2005 19:40:22 GMT -5
I totally agree with you there. I think in anything in life you should not just do it because it's a ritual but do it for a reason. Our feelings and what we believe should be expressed in our words and actions. Lara's message is a good one, and I'm thankful she expresses it in such a beautiful song.
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Post by shavonfan on Jul 25, 2005 4:34:26 GMT -5
Great discussion! I'm glad that you have taken the time to translate this song for me, and add your comments to it, because now the song has a much greater meaning to me.
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Post by shavonfan on Jul 25, 2005 5:22:34 GMT -5
One thing to add: I agree with you that Lara's message is a good one, and also thankful that she expresses it in such a beautiful song. But isn't that the point exactly? It's Lara, the person, who is radiant. That is what brings such depth and meaning to her music. She is actually true to herself, and in what she believes. That, I believe is what makes her so special, and her music and message so beautiful.
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Post by Willow Fabian on Jul 24, 2010 19:29:12 GMT -5
Here is my translation : Even before being life We are taken in a nest of flesh and affection An infinite hug that link us That delivers us wisdom Everything is already acquired But for whom since that shout (cry) We betray the love gesture that unit Divide and feed the regrets A Hail Mary of which the child would not be A statuette, a faithless prayer But a given letter To those who don’t write So the words can finally echo Like a Hail Mary To you, to us to whom that Will find a peace, a land, an harmony An infinite reason, without reason to be, without being blamed And those who “think wrong” Think about it See you soon but in another life In this one that we’re giving each other A chance to start it all over A Hail Mary of which the child would not be A statuette, a faithless prayer But a given letter To those who don’t write So the words can finally echo Like a Hail Mary A Hail Mary For those who don’t pray So that music be the voice again Of an indecent confession for those who don’t believe For all of those that finally deserve A Hail Mary I hope that you'll understand the song better now My view on it : There is NOTHING religious in it like Lara said a lot in interviews. It says that music is the voice of faith for people who don't believe in a religion.
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Post by lapayin on Jul 24, 2010 20:31:06 GMT -5
Thanks Nick.
So does the words "a hail Mary" mean a "prayer"?
I think this song talks about good and evil. We are all born innocent and good, "An infinite hug that link us" But some of us stray from good "We betray the love gesture that unit Divide and feed the regrets"
But all is not lost for those who strayed "See you soon but in another life In this one that we’re giving each other A chance to start it all over"
It's the children who will change the world. It's not too late to "start over".
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Willow Fabian
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Post by Willow Fabian on Jul 24, 2010 20:35:26 GMT -5
Yes, it does mean a prayer
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