Post by davidhr on Jun 8, 2008 14:28:09 GMT -5
The two videos of Lara’s performances from last Sunday at the concert for the 60th anniversary of Israel’s founding have now appeared at various locations on the web (including youtube). She continues to get rave notices for them; she both sounded and looked wonderful. Additional videos of her concert in Kiev have also been made available, as well as many from Moscow and Greece; with current technology, this is a great time for those who want access to Lara’s live performances. In an article in today’s “New York Times” there was a discussion of how music performers need to adjust to the different reality of the web and use it to publicize themselves, so that they can commercialize. They noted that some 30 years ago, the Grateful Dead band encouraged people to record and distribute tapes of their concerts, so as to incite interest in buying Grateful Dead items and attending future concerts – and that this appears to be the wave of the future. Some other women singers of Lara’s vintage are now doing just that; with the placing of the ‘rehearsal’ videos on the official site, it may be that Lara and her people are (slowly) waking up to the possibilities.
Now that these concerts are over, news about Lara has gone back to what it had been in previous months – rumors and innuendo. The vacuum has also allowed the controversy concerning the ‘false information’ published about Lara’s schedule to reach a boiling point. The following is included in this news summary primarily because it is associated with websites that Lara’s fans visit. It also is a commentary on the people surrounding Lara from those in a position to interact with them. Read it at your own risk
It started as a positive occurrence, with Lara-fabian.net reopening with a new look, especially on some of their various options (podcasts, extras, etc.; they did not update the biography). However, accompanying their return, they posted the following intriguing message (in translation):
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Welcome to Lara-fabian.net version 3
Yes! We have returned, we reflected well and we said to ourselves that it was necessary to continue...
Why did we leave?
There are moments in life, when one realizes certain things: that our rapport to the one to whom we dedicated this site is no longer the same, that this person has well changed...
Then what it does is put into question all of our work…
For one no longer has the desire to pass hours and hours, for the end of harvesting only wickedness and jealousy... Then we went to count that some are there, and support us, encourage us, we say this that if we return it is only for them and uniquely for them.
Then, one reemerges while knowing that nothing will be more as before and that a total change imposes: A new version, a new design and most important a new editorial line with a single word of order "to take risks" and to serve you better. And whatever happens we will always be there and no destabilization attempt will succeed...
One hopes that you will follow us in this new adventure.
And thank you to all those that are there and who since the beginning give us confidence: Thank you to Tony, Julian, Narimane, Mélanie, Laetitia... To you the Angels who are part of the forum of this grand lady who is Hézia or by mail, who had been there when that wasn’t going very well. Thank you!
Good Visit.
Haïkel R.
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This message seems to imply that Lara herself is to blame for the misinformation. Perhaps Lara’s people knew this was what was thought, which may explain why Eve took the trouble of publicly denying it on the official site.
In further explanation of his message, Ikl posted the following on Hezia’s site (in translation):
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First of all, thank you for all your messages of support on this forum, that touched me... Thank you!
Then I will explain and I would do it only here…
As I explain it, my rapport with Lara has to change, that is to say that Lara no longer has the place that she had in my heart, I have evolved and I no longer am the fan that I was. And then there were the mails said to be from a girl from Universal, that probably aimed to destabilize us and to torpedo us. (We do not know yet the entirety of the truth, nor any more contact with this Sonia and the ways are not in to measure to tell us if these infos have a part of truth... to make a long story short, for two weeks we await some news and nothing, not even a message from Sophie, or from Lara (which I awaited)).
I will put it together for you in an email so that you understood better.
Ikl
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Ikl then posted the whole email correspondence with “Sonia” from Universal; for those interested, it is at:
forum.aceboard.net/38688-540-21206-1-Petition-POUR-site.htm
It was clear that they (and larafabianweb.com) were tricked; but, angeyelliel wondered, why did that mean that Lara herself had lied (which apparently had been said on lara-fabian.net more explicitly when the site first opened)?
Ikl then posted the following response (again in translation):
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“I am expressing myself poorly, besides I removed it from my site some minutes after... You know this story revealed to us, to me and Laettia, a lot of things, personally I prefer not to speak about it for it is better to remain in innocence; one day it could be that you will realize a lot (that went) before, believe that it is the reason why Julian stopped his site and that he left to do something else, there was a trigger. Why for AMTM, does Lara no longer do anything, since 2/3 of a year. Why is the official site as controlled as that and why are the messages on the log so spaced (4/5 months without writing to us). The messages are more numerous when she needs us as when she is in promo (mode). Why does she say mean things about her French fans, when she is in Quebec, excuse herself on her log, and reiterate her criticisms some months later. Why is she not the same in France, as she is on the video or she is with the Russian fans... Why was Eve the ‘fall-guy’ of the story of the gifts that led her to leave... I have the impression that Lara has changed, finally I would not say Lara, but the people around her have a bad influence. Maurane spoke also on her forum some time ago, I quote:
[This was apparently in response to a question as to why she and Lara were no longer friends….]
‘There, I think that would merit a tribunal, one day!
I answer you already….NEVER… not that I do not want it, on the contrary, but I believe that the entourage of Lara does absolutely ALL so that one be everything, except friends. The suckerfish, the pilotfish, the small slimy, stupid, mean and authoritarian beasts all around, they watch over the grain. One day, Lara will see, it is certain. While awaiting, I myself get hammered, but especially, I’m haunted to see how much those "DIKKE NEK" hold sway!!! Reassure yourself, that which saddened me beforehand puts me really in anger today - good sign. And I remain so patient…which amazes me!!!’
I always love the singer, and it is for that that I will continue my site, but in our regard, I will no longer ‘suck up’ on my site, when something will not please me I will say it loud and strong.
Perhaps, I should not say all that, but it is necessary that come out, and even if I know that I revive polemics and that a lot will be against me, but I take the risk for I have nothing to lose, at the worst I would close my site once and for all.
After that remains uniquely my opinion...
But I will have been able to wake up the staff of Lara and Lara herself, for it is time that a lot of things change. “
Ikl
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The response of the fans to this exchange was that they felt it was too hard on Lara, and they hoped it wouldn’t turn people against her.
The team around Lara has been an absolute disaster and there is no doubt people are turned off by them. The risk is that they will drive away Lara’s most devoted supporters. Personally, I would think it would be hard for lara-fabian.net to continue if they feel so negatively – after all, Julian did close the larafabian.info site, and when was the last time that Lara et moi posted anything? As to whether Lara herself is to blame or has changed – it would be hard for an outsider to know, but I have the impression that Lara has always been highly opinionated with ‘diva’ characteristics, some of which actually make her very enjoyable to watch. She also has some wonderful characteristics, not to mention the absolute quality of her talent. An obvious comment: if her closest websites, and friends like Mauranne are upset with things, it would seem prudent for her to listen.
The celebrity magazine “Closer”, on the stands tomorrow, will report that Lara Fabian is getting ready to take the step of marrying her companion Gerard Pullicino. She apparently decided this after the birth of her daughter. If it takes place, they say it will be after the release of the new album still scheduled for February 9, and at the closing of the tour that follows. The magazine repeats that the new album will have 13 songs, 9 new songs, one reprise in French, and three in other languages (English, Italian and Spanish).
One doesn’t know what to make of this. Reports that Lara would marry have been occurring off and on now for a year and a half. Given that Lara recently said the album would actually come out in September, the information at the very least seems outdated.
There are more rumors concerning Lara’s association with a musical comedy, as noted by marclara13 who posted this link on the official site:
www2.canoe.com/divertissement/musique/nouvelles/2008/05/29/5703446-jdm.html
In this case, the show is associated with the comedian, singer and director Robert Marien, and it is called “Le Petit Roy”; it is based on the repertoire of Jean-Pierre Ferland. The concert version, for which Lara is rumored to be playing a part, is scheduled to begin August 4th at the Festival des arts de Saint-Sauveur. Lara has just said she is not going to be in a theatre production, though one wonders whether a concert associated with a theatre production is also included in that denial. Coincidentally, or not, the timing does not overlap the release of her new album.
David
Now that these concerts are over, news about Lara has gone back to what it had been in previous months – rumors and innuendo. The vacuum has also allowed the controversy concerning the ‘false information’ published about Lara’s schedule to reach a boiling point. The following is included in this news summary primarily because it is associated with websites that Lara’s fans visit. It also is a commentary on the people surrounding Lara from those in a position to interact with them. Read it at your own risk
It started as a positive occurrence, with Lara-fabian.net reopening with a new look, especially on some of their various options (podcasts, extras, etc.; they did not update the biography). However, accompanying their return, they posted the following intriguing message (in translation):
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome to Lara-fabian.net version 3
Yes! We have returned, we reflected well and we said to ourselves that it was necessary to continue...
Why did we leave?
There are moments in life, when one realizes certain things: that our rapport to the one to whom we dedicated this site is no longer the same, that this person has well changed...
Then what it does is put into question all of our work…
For one no longer has the desire to pass hours and hours, for the end of harvesting only wickedness and jealousy... Then we went to count that some are there, and support us, encourage us, we say this that if we return it is only for them and uniquely for them.
Then, one reemerges while knowing that nothing will be more as before and that a total change imposes: A new version, a new design and most important a new editorial line with a single word of order "to take risks" and to serve you better. And whatever happens we will always be there and no destabilization attempt will succeed...
One hopes that you will follow us in this new adventure.
And thank you to all those that are there and who since the beginning give us confidence: Thank you to Tony, Julian, Narimane, Mélanie, Laetitia... To you the Angels who are part of the forum of this grand lady who is Hézia or by mail, who had been there when that wasn’t going very well. Thank you!
Good Visit.
Haïkel R.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
This message seems to imply that Lara herself is to blame for the misinformation. Perhaps Lara’s people knew this was what was thought, which may explain why Eve took the trouble of publicly denying it on the official site.
In further explanation of his message, Ikl posted the following on Hezia’s site (in translation):
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
First of all, thank you for all your messages of support on this forum, that touched me... Thank you!
Then I will explain and I would do it only here…
As I explain it, my rapport with Lara has to change, that is to say that Lara no longer has the place that she had in my heart, I have evolved and I no longer am the fan that I was. And then there were the mails said to be from a girl from Universal, that probably aimed to destabilize us and to torpedo us. (We do not know yet the entirety of the truth, nor any more contact with this Sonia and the ways are not in to measure to tell us if these infos have a part of truth... to make a long story short, for two weeks we await some news and nothing, not even a message from Sophie, or from Lara (which I awaited)).
I will put it together for you in an email so that you understood better.
Ikl
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ikl then posted the whole email correspondence with “Sonia” from Universal; for those interested, it is at:
forum.aceboard.net/38688-540-21206-1-Petition-POUR-site.htm
It was clear that they (and larafabianweb.com) were tricked; but, angeyelliel wondered, why did that mean that Lara herself had lied (which apparently had been said on lara-fabian.net more explicitly when the site first opened)?
Ikl then posted the following response (again in translation):
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
“I am expressing myself poorly, besides I removed it from my site some minutes after... You know this story revealed to us, to me and Laettia, a lot of things, personally I prefer not to speak about it for it is better to remain in innocence; one day it could be that you will realize a lot (that went) before, believe that it is the reason why Julian stopped his site and that he left to do something else, there was a trigger. Why for AMTM, does Lara no longer do anything, since 2/3 of a year. Why is the official site as controlled as that and why are the messages on the log so spaced (4/5 months without writing to us). The messages are more numerous when she needs us as when she is in promo (mode). Why does she say mean things about her French fans, when she is in Quebec, excuse herself on her log, and reiterate her criticisms some months later. Why is she not the same in France, as she is on the video or she is with the Russian fans... Why was Eve the ‘fall-guy’ of the story of the gifts that led her to leave... I have the impression that Lara has changed, finally I would not say Lara, but the people around her have a bad influence. Maurane spoke also on her forum some time ago, I quote:
[This was apparently in response to a question as to why she and Lara were no longer friends….]
‘There, I think that would merit a tribunal, one day!
I answer you already….NEVER… not that I do not want it, on the contrary, but I believe that the entourage of Lara does absolutely ALL so that one be everything, except friends. The suckerfish, the pilotfish, the small slimy, stupid, mean and authoritarian beasts all around, they watch over the grain. One day, Lara will see, it is certain. While awaiting, I myself get hammered, but especially, I’m haunted to see how much those "DIKKE NEK" hold sway!!! Reassure yourself, that which saddened me beforehand puts me really in anger today - good sign. And I remain so patient…which amazes me!!!’
I always love the singer, and it is for that that I will continue my site, but in our regard, I will no longer ‘suck up’ on my site, when something will not please me I will say it loud and strong.
Perhaps, I should not say all that, but it is necessary that come out, and even if I know that I revive polemics and that a lot will be against me, but I take the risk for I have nothing to lose, at the worst I would close my site once and for all.
After that remains uniquely my opinion...
But I will have been able to wake up the staff of Lara and Lara herself, for it is time that a lot of things change. “
Ikl
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The response of the fans to this exchange was that they felt it was too hard on Lara, and they hoped it wouldn’t turn people against her.
The team around Lara has been an absolute disaster and there is no doubt people are turned off by them. The risk is that they will drive away Lara’s most devoted supporters. Personally, I would think it would be hard for lara-fabian.net to continue if they feel so negatively – after all, Julian did close the larafabian.info site, and when was the last time that Lara et moi posted anything? As to whether Lara herself is to blame or has changed – it would be hard for an outsider to know, but I have the impression that Lara has always been highly opinionated with ‘diva’ characteristics, some of which actually make her very enjoyable to watch. She also has some wonderful characteristics, not to mention the absolute quality of her talent. An obvious comment: if her closest websites, and friends like Mauranne are upset with things, it would seem prudent for her to listen.
The celebrity magazine “Closer”, on the stands tomorrow, will report that Lara Fabian is getting ready to take the step of marrying her companion Gerard Pullicino. She apparently decided this after the birth of her daughter. If it takes place, they say it will be after the release of the new album still scheduled for February 9, and at the closing of the tour that follows. The magazine repeats that the new album will have 13 songs, 9 new songs, one reprise in French, and three in other languages (English, Italian and Spanish).
One doesn’t know what to make of this. Reports that Lara would marry have been occurring off and on now for a year and a half. Given that Lara recently said the album would actually come out in September, the information at the very least seems outdated.
There are more rumors concerning Lara’s association with a musical comedy, as noted by marclara13 who posted this link on the official site:
www2.canoe.com/divertissement/musique/nouvelles/2008/05/29/5703446-jdm.html
In this case, the show is associated with the comedian, singer and director Robert Marien, and it is called “Le Petit Roy”; it is based on the repertoire of Jean-Pierre Ferland. The concert version, for which Lara is rumored to be playing a part, is scheduled to begin August 4th at the Festival des arts de Saint-Sauveur. Lara has just said she is not going to be in a theatre production, though one wonders whether a concert associated with a theatre production is also included in that denial. Coincidentally, or not, the timing does not overlap the release of her new album.
David