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Post by achebeautiful on Jul 22, 2006 14:08:37 GMT -5
Coenraad! It was well worth the wait for your review....excellent job! Thank you for the very interesting history of the song "Adagio." Look, if Leona, Paula and you are going to continue to turn in such smart and intelligent reviews, then I am going to have to drop out. You're all making me look silly here! The best thing about all of these reviews is how they broaden one's appreciation for the songs. Wouldn't you all agree?
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Post by cppgenius on Jul 22, 2006 15:45:45 GMT -5
Thanks mark, but I feel that my previous reviews were more in depth reviews, this one was a bit rushed in the end, but still gives the reader a good idea how I feel about this album. I'm glad about the discovery I made about Adagio, it made me appreciate the song even more.
Although some of my views do not agree with the other reviews I do agree with them after reading all of your comments. This has lead me to great new discoveries of some of the songs. This is really a great way of enjoying your music. Makes for great discussion with other people not attending this forum.
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Post by ocelot on Jul 22, 2006 17:24:43 GMT -5
Mark, don't drop out because your reviews are good too. I love reading alot of different reviews because each person has different things that are important to them, that they notice in the music, and that they discover. It's been enjoying to read them all and I find that when someone differs from you, you look deeper into the song to figure out what the song means to you (well, maybe you guys don't but I do).
Coenraad, I loved your review because for so many of the songs you were different than me and it made me notice things about those songs that I didn't before.
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Post by achebeautiful on Jul 22, 2006 18:10:46 GMT -5
Leona, I am not going to stop doing reviews. I was only trying to emphasize just how much I regard all of your reviews. They are all so observant and smart. Also, they are so well written. I am very proud to be a part of all this.
And although we may disagree on some aspects of songs, it is always kept respectful here, and I love that about it! I too learn from everyone when there are things I didn't get from the song that others did.
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Post by lapayin on Jul 22, 2006 21:39:15 GMT -5
Great review Coenraad. WOW the suggestion that the piano piece in Adagio might reflect the six bars lost is amazing.
I am on board with all of you. How boring a place this would be if we all agreed on everything. There would be no learning. To me writing "good" songs is an art. And like paintings a "good" song can be interpreted differently by each of us. We all have different life experiences and relate in our own way to the messages. We have shown in our reviews and discussions that like looking at a painting again and again we are contantly picking up new things from Lara's songs.
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Post by cppgenius on Jul 23, 2006 5:59:28 GMT -5
The fact that we have different views is very important because it is like you said Leona it makes you discover things from certain songs that you never would have discovered in the frist place. In the end everyone's review makes me appreciate Lara's music even more. For instance we discussed No Big Deal on www.lara-fabian.com where Paula (I think it was you Paula) explained how this song reflected Lara's struggle with Sony. That made me cherish the song even more because I always wished Lara all the success in her English career. The fact that she uses a song published by the same record company that she had a problem with is even more amazing to me. You can see I'm again running away with all the ideas this single observation of a song brought to me. Doing these reviews and reading all the other just broadens your perspective on music produced by a maestro of a musician. While I'm at it I Would like to discuss I Am Who I Am even further. You will notice that I use this as a slogan everywhere I go (Take a look at my signature). There is so much truth in this song and that is why I like to quote it every now and then. I just hate it when people question my personality or who I am and when people try to change me into someone that I'm not. People always looked down on me when I was in school because of my reserved personality. People always wanted to change that. I finished my school career in the same year when this album was made. Four years later I discovered this song from this album that explained just that what I always struggled with. I am who I am, don't try to change that, accept me who I am, because the person who I am will portray sincerity. I'm a fraud if I pretend to be sombody else. Change is good if you choose to change your ways and who you are if you have been living a bad life with a bad attitude. If you decide to change who you are for the sake of God, then I say do it, in fact you must do it. Change is good if you change from bad to good. But when you are living a good life, an honest life, stay like that because you are who you are and I am who I am.
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Post by achebeautiful on Jul 23, 2006 11:18:15 GMT -5
I would be glad to discuss "I Am Who I Am" Coenraad. First of all, thank you very much for sharing your story about the song and why it means so much to you. I know that I have a greater appreciation for the song and like it even better because of your high regard for the song.
I think there is a huge difference between changing a behavior or action that may be sinful in God's eyes and changing a personality type. Someone can be quiet and reserved or loud and outgoing; that's all part of the makeup of who they are as a person. God designed each person a certain way to further illustrate His image in each of us. God can be found in the quiet and reserved person as well as the loud, outgoing person.
Furthermore, as Leona illustrates so well in her song "Only His Love", God loves all of us the same and paid a tremendous price proving it. That same love that He has for us is required of us for each other. We all have need of the work of the cross. We are to love the sinner and hate the sin.
There is something very liberating about loving someone for who they are, and accepting them just the way they are. All of a sudden you find a beauty that cannot be defined or found when you are otherwise spending so much time trying to make that person into who you think they should be.
I've had the pleasure, no the blessing (a better word) of knowing each of you here a little bit and I can tell you that all of you are truly beautiful people. I wouldn't change anything about any of you. I know that I have become a richer man having had each of you in my life.
So I guess "I Am Who I Am" is a very good message to all of us!
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Post by cppgenius on Jul 24, 2006 15:07:46 GMT -5
I agree with you Mark (I know I'm going a bit off topic now) and I'd like to add a couple of thoughts to what you said.
We as humans should never point the finger to other humans because there are several fingers pointing back at us. We are just as sinful as our fellow man. But you can't expect to be saved if you decide to persist in your sins. I would like to say that if you decide to change your ways of life from bad to good, you will most certainly undergo a personality change. That is also true if someone, most dreadfully, change from a good person to a bad one.
The aggressive murderer will become a calm and loving person (you see, a total personality change) but deep inside you cannot change the person God destined you to be. That is why you can, in the end, only be who you are. Therefore I Am Who I Am.
Lara brings a rather deep message through a very casual approach. I don't think everyone sees this song as a serious song. But if you look close enough you will see that it is one indeed.
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Post by bward on May 19, 2007 8:10:54 GMT -5
Awww.....Lara's first English album!! Talk about bringing back memories! I got to witness her talent in person back in 2001 in Montreal when she was filming the PBS special!! I was blown away by her vocal ability and her mere presence on stage. Magnificient! I still believe that Lara would of been a MAJOR success in North America if she had not gone on tour in France right after the release of this album. She should of stayed in here for at least 6 months to a year to promote herself more. It's too bad.
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Post by achebeautiful on May 19, 2007 8:46:11 GMT -5
First of all, welcome to LaraFullOfGrace Bev! Please take a moment when you have a chance to introduce yourself to us at the "Just You" board. It is great to have you here! Wow! You had the exciting experience of seeing a young Lara Fabian live in concert! How great is that?! You use the word 'magnificent', which is a very good word to describe Lara's vocal abilities and stage presence. But I'm not sure even that word fully explains it! I always find it really interesting to learn from people why they they think Lara did not succeed in the United States. Bev, your observation is definately a good one, and cannot be discounted as a strong possibility. At this point in Lara's career, I am no longer looking at her success or lackof in the U.S. as a negative. Maybe she is where she is today by some misfortunate turn of events either by her own doing or her management's. Maybe she is just too good for the U.S. market (it is a possibilty, when you consider what passes for success in the States these days). Whatever the case may be, she is who she is, and is where she is in her career (with or without the U.S.). Maybe the lack of success here in America is keeping her real....and hungry! What say you?
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Post by bward on May 21, 2007 21:00:38 GMT -5
I agree that what the USA calls a "successful" singer is not where I would want Lara to be at this time, BUT I still think that she could of had more success in North America especially in the English market if she had made herself more available here back when the first English album came out. Personally, I would buy any album of Lara's whether in French, English, Italian or Spanish.....she is one of my favourite performers and always will be!
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Post by lapayin on May 21, 2007 21:51:16 GMT -5
First let me say welcome Bev. Great to see you here at FOG.
I agree with you Bev. And I still see that happening today. With the release of "Un Coure Malato" I would think Lara should be in Italy.
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